eye liner help...

ok i love eye liner. and recently i've started lining my waterline and i was wondering if there was a trick i'm missing because everytime my eyes started watering and it just all comes off. is there anything to help this or do i just keep doing to train my eyes not to water?

Thanks
~Jesse~

It happens that some people have eyes that "eat" waterline colour (like mine do). I've found that waterproof eyeliners (like the Urban Decay 24/7 pencils) work best. If I want the colour on my waterline to stay even if I go swimming... I use Smashbox' JetSet liners. These dry on your waterline and don't come off. Seriously, I had a little smudge on my contact lens once and it was a nightmare to get off.

thanks so much, i'll have to try those!

I'm not so bad with black eyeliner on the water line, but I always make sure I have mascara on with it, even if it's just at the base. Probably just a habit, but I like to think that the mascara helps darken it up, therefore it's not so noticeable if it does start coming off.

Also I found that lining the upper waterline (verrrry tickly) not only darkens the upper lashline, but will eventually subside leaving a trace on the lower waterline. Hurrah!

Anyone have any tips for white eyeliner? I find it shifts very easily and ends up looking quite dirty eventually. It often clogs on my lashes as well.

I have the same problem with my waterline, thanks for the help